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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby cyprusishome » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:26 pm

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Please explain your comments which I assume are aimed at firestarter.

I have had many pleasant exchanges and a few not so pleasant with FS but at least they are consistent and after living here and trying to run a business for several years they have a lot to offer especially to those who ask questions such as this thread. Just because the answers may appear extreme on occasions the viewpoint given is from, I believe 10 years experience and worthy of being listened to.
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby Fraise » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:38 am

Some very interesting, informative replies there - thank you for your own personal views, it's very much appreciated!

There does seem to be pros and cons to living in either the north or south, and I'm taking on board all comments. A few things that have been pointed out are quite worrying, but I do like a healthy sprinkling of 'warts and all' information - being pre-warned of situations is imperative, I believe.

Weighing up the pros and cons, I'm beginning to wonder if some of the cons weigh more :? If the hospitals are not that good, then that is something I need to seriously consider, plus of course, title deed problems, not being able to work or start a business...

The north is definitely quieter and less commercialised, which I really like, but I'm beginning to wonder if the TRNC is better suited to part-time living - a holiday home, for example - rather than moving out there lock, stock and barrel? It does seem that the majority of members who have replied to this post, also have a main home in the UK, and that must give a sense of security...if something goes pear-shaped in TRNC at least you still have your home in the UK. Unfortunately, I wouldn't have that luxury - I would be investing my all into my new home, so this is why I am anxious to find out as much information as I can. My sister is in a much more fortunate situation than I am; she will be keeping her home in the UK, whereas if something were to go wrong for me out there in Cyprus, I would be in trouble. Of course, my sister would always look after me, but I need my own home and independence, and I wouldn't like to be obliged to my sister - or anyone else for that matter.

I have a lot of thinking to do.

Meanwhile, if anyone can think of any other things to tell, or warn me of ( pros and cons), I would so appreciate it.

You have all been so helpful! :)
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby dalartokat » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:50 am

firestarter wrote:For us it was about house and location, we would have gone north or south, just house turned up in the north, the sort of thing we were looking for. After living in the north for years and leaving i would never go back, but i would go back to the south tomorrow.

Reasons are the goverment in the north are bleeding people dry, you will never get citzenship, the hospitals are a joke, probably never get a title deed,( and if tyou do it will probably be stolen property) lack of electric, dictatorship rules and regulations, property is not an investment, animal welfare ,food is unregualted,business is a waste of time, ect ect ect.
At least in the south you can get medical treatment and have rights as a european.

I am not saying all is rosie in the garden south but at least they are working towards a eu way of life, unlike the north who are run by the Turkish dictatorship.




All of which you should have known before you went if you had asked around or done your own homework. So the pitfalls were always there.
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby firestarter » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:55 pm

I actually have family in the TRNC so i knew what i was getting into, but never thought it would be as hard as it was. Slumming it is what i would call it. . Thats no reason for me to sing the praises of the place , especially as i was fortunate and had a title deed.
Has anyone explain yet the title deed situ? Stolen land and all that which is on both sides of the island.

How could you say to someone come live & invest in Cyprus?? .14

As always i will tell it how it is regardless of who likes it and who doesn't!
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby Fraise » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:02 pm

firestarter wrote:I actually have family in the TRNC so i knew what i was getting into, but never thought it would be as hard as it was. Slumming it is what i would call it. . Thats no reason for me to sing the praises of the place , especially as i was fortunate and had a title deed.
Has anyone explain yet the title deed situ? Stolen land and all that which is on both sides of the island.

How could you say to someone come live & invest in Cyprus?? .14

As always i will tell it how it is regardless of who likes it and who doesn't!




Hi Firestarter

Thank you for your honesty. Forewarned if forearmed, and I appreciate ALL views, whether negative or positive.

I am aware there are many issues with buying a property, but until finding this forum I had no idea there were issues with investing in a business. Out of interest, what type of business were you involved in if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby britvic » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:19 pm

Fraise, let me explain what has happened to a lot of people in NC including myself. Bought an off plan villa in 2005, was built by 2009 (sort of, builder went bankrupt). 2010 we find out (by chance) that the landowner has mortgaged the land our villa is stood on and hasn't paid any money back, suddenly we don't own our villa the bank does. After very lengthy and costly months, last year all was finally settled.
Dreams can very quickly turn into nightmares in Northern Cyprus.
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby Turtle » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:25 pm

Fraise,
My take on NC is that we don't live there just holiday and we love it.
The TRNC is a place that has suffered with the isolation issues over the years,.. taking the rights and wrongs of 74 and before you have to ask yourself has this country been fairley treated by the wider world,..I personally don't think it has ?
The difficulties of just living there let alone setting up a business needs to be carefully thought through which you are obviously doing, some have had terrible experiences and some myself included had very few problems.
When reading threads like this is appears that the most contented seem to be older retired people and holiday makers the ones who try to make a new life with a business seem to have more issues than its worth.

One thing is for sure the TRNC is here to stay and whether the wider community accepts it or Turkey makes it an official Turkish state the next few years will be very interesting as to how it develops.
The TRNC is very different from anywhere else and needs to be treated as such.
Whatever you decide I wish good luck :)
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby firestarter » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:50 pm

Hi Fraise,
we ran a dog kennels, nothing wrong with customers or turn over but if you want to run something properly it cost money. Money that the ex pat community won't pay as most still expect something for cheap or free. Unlike our other customers who were Russian, American, Turkish, South American and TC.
The TRNC and Cyprus in general can also get pretty boring as its such a small place.
Flights to other destinations are not as good as say from the UK or other places in the EU if you like travel and holidays.

If you are looking to retire and have deep pockets or you want to spend the rest of your life siting in a bar getting pickled then its for you. Failing that don't make the same mistakes as other have.
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby Fraise » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:47 am

Turtle wrote:Fraise,
My take on NC is that we don't live there just holiday and we love it.
The TRNC is a place that has suffered with the isolation issues over the years,.. taking the rights and wrongs of 74 and before you have to ask yourself has this country been fairley treated by the wider world,..I personally don't think it has ?
The difficulties of just living there let alone setting up a business needs to be carefully thought through which you are obviously doing, some have had terrible experiences and some myself included had very few problems.
When reading threads like this is appears that the most contented seem to be older retired people and holiday makers the ones who try to make a new life with a business seem to have more issues than its worth.

One thing is for sure the TRNC is here to stay and whether the wider community accepts it or Turkey makes it an official Turkish state the next few years will be very interesting as to how it develops.
The TRNC is very different from anywhere else and needs to be treated as such.
Whatever you decide I wish good luck :)




Thank you, Turtle, for your reply. It's much appreciated.

Yes, I'm beginning to think that maybe North Cyprus is lovely for peaceful holidays etc, but unless you have very deep pockets, it would be very hard to live well out there....? But as you say, if you're retired - and you have a big nest egg and good private pension - then you wouldn't have to struggle. I know some people move abroad and live off their state pensions, but in reality that is nowhere enough to live a comfortable lifestyle.

That's a long way off for me yet, which is why I was keen to start some kind of business, but after getting all this feedback, I know starting a business will just be foolhardy, and I'll probably lose all my money.

Plus, of course, not having a crystal ball doesn't help. As you rightly pointed out, it will be interesting to see what happens to the TRNC in the future, and any kind of change can often have an impact on the people living there - be it advantageous or disadvantageous.

I still have lots to think about yet, and all your information is so helpful to me!

Thank you.
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Re: What made you choose North Cyprus instead of the South?

Postby Fraise » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:03 am

britvic wrote:Fraise, let me explain what has happened to a lot of people in NC including myself. Bought an off plan villa in 2005, was built by 2009 (sort of, builder went bankrupt). 2010 we find out (by chance) that the landowner has mortgaged the land our villa is stood on and hasn't paid any money back, suddenly we don't own our villa the bank does. After very lengthy and costly months, last year all was finally settled.
Dreams can very quickly turn into nightmares in Northern Cyprus.



Britvic, thank you for your warning.

I have heard of this property scamming in Turkey, and whilst I knew there was problems with title deeds in TRNC, due to the 1974 war, I didn't realise the TRNC was also afflicted by these property scammers!!

Gosh, that must have been terrible for you to go through all that heartache! I have read and heard of cases in Turkey, where people have lost hundreds of thousands to this scamming trick, and you would really think they'd change the law so that it couldn't happen. It's an outrage! How do they manage to get away with this scam? Why don't the police or courts act?

I recall reading a thread on MoneySavingExpert.com all about buying in Turkey, and some of the terrible pitfalls that go on. I believe some areas are worse, too. I can't remember off the top of my head, but one area in Turkey was mentioned frequently. It came across as a kind of scammers ghetto. The properties were all cheap in comparison to other areas, but the place was rundown and scruffy (even showed pictures of dead rats on beaches and ugly box-shaped villas in revolting colours of mustard), quite why anyone chose to live in such a rundown, dirty place is anyone's guess - I suppose it attracted those with very tight budgets. But what was so horrendous and heartbreaking was how these poor people were getting scammed out of the little that they had. It's disgusting.

So is this prolific in TRNC too? :?

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